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	<title>Comments on: Cage Match 2010, Round 2: 5) Rand Al&#8217;Thor vs. 21) Conan the Barbarian</title>
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		<title>By: Warlockcaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warlockcaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m late to the fight but here it goes.  Rand is a great sword fighter.  I&#039;ll agree he could last against Conan for a few minutes but the loss of his hand and Conan&#039;s peak levels of skill and human physical potential would result in the Rand&#039;s defeat.  Even with both hands Rand is simply outmatched.  But Rand never let the battle go that far.  His vast control over the one power makes this fight a curb stomp.  I would like to point out a problem with this statement though. 
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&quot;Conan felt the air begin to wrap around his statuesque figure and knew he would not be able to use force to break the bonds the sorcerer was weaving. So instead he retreated. His maddening assault turning instantly into a backwards somersault. Though Rand gave no sign of incantation, Conan could still feel the bonds being formed and slip through them with relative ease. But he had to keep moving.&quot;
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This story is well written but is a poor description of weaving the one power.  Weaving bonds of air happens instantly.  It is not some something you can dodge.  Their is no perceptible change in the air.  It is as fast as a thought.  There is a part in the books when Rand is riding through the city.  Out of the corner of his eye he sees an assassin on the rooftops.  The man fires a crossbow bolt at him.  Rand erects a shield of air while the bolt is in mid flight and blocks it.  No matter how fast or agile, Conan is still a human being.  Weaves of air are stronger than steel and form as fast as a thought.  They cannot be avoided.  Once Conan is ensnared Rand doesn&#039;t have to resort to balefire even.  Two weaves that come to mind are both composed of fire and air.  One creates powerful explosions.  Send such a weave through the barbarian and he is splattered all over the arena.  Another was used against Rand by a forsaken and is essentially a laser beam.  However, Rand could easily replicate this weave and cut Conan into hundreds of bloody chunks in bare seconds.  Conan is an awesome character and deserves nothing but respect.  But he has his limits.  Rand far exceeds those and is essentially out of his league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m late to the fight but here it goes.  Rand is a great sword fighter.  I&#8217;ll agree he could last against Conan for a few minutes but the loss of his hand and Conan&#8217;s peak levels of skill and human physical potential would result in the Rand&#8217;s defeat.  Even with both hands Rand is simply outmatched.  But Rand never let the battle go that far.  His vast control over the one power makes this fight a curb stomp.  I would like to point out a problem with this statement though.<br />
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&#8220;Conan felt the air begin to wrap around his statuesque figure and knew he would not be able to use force to break the bonds the sorcerer was weaving. So instead he retreated. His maddening assault turning instantly into a backwards somersault. Though Rand gave no sign of incantation, Conan could still feel the bonds being formed and slip through them with relative ease. But he had to keep moving.&#8221;<br />
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This story is well written but is a poor description of weaving the one power.  Weaving bonds of air happens instantly.  It is not some something you can dodge.  Their is no perceptible change in the air.  It is as fast as a thought.  There is a part in the books when Rand is riding through the city.  Out of the corner of his eye he sees an assassin on the rooftops.  The man fires a crossbow bolt at him.  Rand erects a shield of air while the bolt is in mid flight and blocks it.  No matter how fast or agile, Conan is still a human being.  Weaves of air are stronger than steel and form as fast as a thought.  They cannot be avoided.  Once Conan is ensnared Rand doesn&#8217;t have to resort to balefire even.  Two weaves that come to mind are both composed of fire and air.  One creates powerful explosions.  Send such a weave through the barbarian and he is splattered all over the arena.  Another was used against Rand by a forsaken and is essentially a laser beam.  However, Rand could easily replicate this weave and cut Conan into hundreds of bloody chunks in bare seconds.  Conan is an awesome character and deserves nothing but respect.  But he has his limits.  Rand far exceeds those and is essentially out of his league.</p>
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		<title>By: Palm Trees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palm Trees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conan predicted to lose?
Conan?? :(
Booo!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conan predicted to lose?<br />
Conan?? <img src='http://suvudu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Booo!</p>
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		<title>By: Battlecow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Battlecow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conan should have won this one. Conan as a character is to Rand as a character as Rand&#039;s magic power is to Conan&#039;s magic power. And destroying beings of boundless power is Conan&#039;s specialty- if this actually went down, Conan would trot out a verse from &lt;i&gt;The Lay of Kings&lt;/i&gt;, find a benign priest or else just threaten the bejeezus out of some dark priest or wizard from Stygia with its shadow-guarded tombs, acquire an anti-stupidity amulet, and strangle that sonuvagun Baal-Pteor style.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conan should have won this one. Conan as a character is to Rand as a character as Rand&#8217;s magic power is to Conan&#8217;s magic power. And destroying beings of boundless power is Conan&#8217;s specialty- if this actually went down, Conan would trot out a verse from <i>The Lay of Kings</i>, find a benign priest or else just threaten the bejeezus out of some dark priest or wizard from Stygia with its shadow-guarded tombs, acquire an anti-stupidity amulet, and strangle that sonuvagun Baal-Pteor style.</p>
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		<title>By: lakesidey</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakesidey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Lews Therin can create a mountain, can&#039;t see any reason why Rand should not be able to destroy one. Hail the Dragon reborn...;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Lews Therin can create a mountain, can&#8217;t see any reason why Rand should not be able to destroy one. Hail the Dragon reborn&#8230;;)</p>
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		<title>By: Lupious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lupious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to take Rand Al&#039; Thor to the finals.  Him vs Cthulhu.  That is assuming his madness doesn&#039;t kill him first.  Going to be hard to wipe a mountain from existence though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to take Rand Al&#8217; Thor to the finals.  Him vs Cthulhu.  That is assuming his madness doesn&#8217;t kill him first.  Going to be hard to wipe a mountain from existence though.</p>
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		<title>By: Satt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samuel was completely right
Crom is embarassing him/herself.
It doesnt matter how athletic you are if you can be manhandled easily with weaves of air.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samuel was completely right<br />
Crom is embarassing him/herself.<br />
It doesnt matter how athletic you are if you can be manhandled easily with weaves of air.</p>
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		<title>By: lakesidey</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakesidey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for Rand, but I still submit that the ending should have been different...
One moment, there he was: a massive, hugely muscled bulk, imposing as a Hyborian mountain, and the next moment he wasn’t. All over Cimmeria his name vanished from the memories of the storytellers, and disappeared from the scrolls, and his legends went dark.
And in another faraway land and another faraway time, James Oliver Rigney, Jr. stared down at the blank page, and tried to remember the series he was supposed to be adding new works to, but somehow he could not even find the originals, nor the pay for the earlier books he seemed to recall writing for it.
Desperately in need of employment, he returned to his first love, nuclear physics, and went on to invent a nuclear weapon with laser-like properties which he claimed could destroy the world (he whimsically nicknamed it balefire, but could never quite explain why), but alas, he died just five years before a trigger-happy general proved him right in December 2012.
And Rand? He swiftly and silently vanished away, for James was Robert Jordan, you see...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for Rand, but I still submit that the ending should have been different&#8230;<br />
One moment, there he was: a massive, hugely muscled bulk, imposing as a Hyborian mountain, and the next moment he wasn’t. All over Cimmeria his name vanished from the memories of the storytellers, and disappeared from the scrolls, and his legends went dark.<br />
And in another faraway land and another faraway time, James Oliver Rigney, Jr. stared down at the blank page, and tried to remember the series he was supposed to be adding new works to, but somehow he could not even find the originals, nor the pay for the earlier books he seemed to recall writing for it.<br />
Desperately in need of employment, he returned to his first love, nuclear physics, and went on to invent a nuclear weapon with laser-like properties which he claimed could destroy the world (he whimsically nicknamed it balefire, but could never quite explain why), but alas, he died just five years before a trigger-happy general proved him right in December 2012.<br />
And Rand? He swiftly and silently vanished away, for James was Robert Jordan, you see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: amergin</title>
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		<dc:creator>amergin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crom will be displeased if Rand wins...very displeased
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crom will be displeased if Rand wins&#8230;very displeased</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conan loses because Age of Conan sucked and was a waste of time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conan loses because Age of Conan sucked and was a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: scorpiknox</title>
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		<dc:creator>scorpiknox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Difficult to read as is poorly written, not difficult to read as in lots of big words. Just wanted to clear that up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Difficult to read as is poorly written, not difficult to read as in lots of big words. Just wanted to clear that up.</p>
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