Comments on: Cage Match 2010, Round 3: 7) Temeraire versus 15) Jaime Lannister

By: dpomerico

dpomerico — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:50:20 +0000

And thus ends Temeraire's great run. Thanks to all of you for participating (and bearing with us), and a special thanks to Naomi, who not only was a great sport, but wrote a fantastic piece for this site (if you haven't read it yet, do yourself a favor and check it out, above). Now Jaime fights Kvothe: Kingkiller versus Kingslayer! See our video recap of this round, here: http://bit.ly/9x9dFi And go to the next match, which is now live: http://bit.ly/c5VWxg

By: alicelouise58

alicelouise58 — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:04:38 +0000

Tyrion and his brother were studying the information scroll on Kvothe. “Not the opponent I was expecting for my dear brother.” thought Tyrion Lannister.
Varys had whispered in silently on cat feet. “Lord Tyrion I have addition information on Kvothe and on Jaime’s probable next opponent, Rand al’thior.”
“Counting our chickens Varys? What I’ve seen of this tourney is that the expected has not occured. If everything went to form my dear brother would be a gibbering mad man. That monstrous construct’s opponents would be mincemeat. You are right however, keep scouting ALL possible future opponents. Scout thoroughly this Rand fellow and the Dark Elf Drizzt.”
Tyrion turned to two very contrasting women beside him. One was a huge woman in armour. At a distance she would be mistaken for a man. “Brienne of Tarth, find out the fighting tactics of Rand and Drizzt.”
The other very young woman had beautiful auburn hair. She was Tyrion’s wife in name only. He had not set her aside, however, she was available as a resource in this Tourney. “So Sansa what do you know of Rand al’thior and Drizzt Do’Urden?”
“Drizzt Do’Urden if the Second Boy of his House and the only survivor of the Do’Urden line. He and his companions have rid their world of the evil artifact Crenishibon.” Sansa had said with a far away wistful look in her eyes. She stopped speaking.
“He reminds you of your father, Sansa?” Tyrion had said not without sympathy. Sansa Stark looked away. “Do not forget yourself! You are to gather most of your information on Rand, your brother in law’s next like opponent. Find the people close to him, listen and gather information, and report. Getting information on Drizzt will be secondary to your tasks.
This just the posting on Jaime’s next cage match. I know GRRM does not like fanfic. And this posting is in now way sponsored by GRRM or his publisher.

By: Solar

Solar — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:12:23 +0000

I couldn’t agree more with archon. It’s downright dumb to say that you should use logic in a tournament where normal men is mixed with invincible world destroyers. A mix like that made it utterly impossible to go by their abilities and maintain any resemblance of value in the contest.
Again we need to go to the nature of epic battles and rarely do epic stories end with the most likely victor. The power of the characters ultimately lie in the writing of the authors and that makes it much more likely that a more interesting character will somehow survive.

By: Beastly

Beastly — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:19:01 +0000

Knights beat small dragons in the stories, not huge ones. Huge ones have to be outwitted: that’s the rule.
1) Jaime is no knight. His good hand was cut off and he is a lousy fighter with the hand he has left.
2) It is a very, very big dragon
3) Instead of a convincing story, there is a cage (sorry, but although Casterly Rock Tea is a great story, it isn’t convincing. It requires the dragon to be almost suicidely stupid).
So I had to vote for Temeraire, on principle. It would be nice to know how Jaime did it.

By: Joe Dalton

Joe Dalton — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:17:23 +0000

Does that mean that a knight, whoever he is, ‘must’ slay a dragon, whoever or whatever he or she or it is?
If you can’t believe another way, then I feel sorry for your lack of imagination.

By: Elis

Elis — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:28:23 +0000

The idea of a knight slaying a dragon is pretty much the heart of the beginnings of the fantasy genre. And if you can’t believe it can happen, if a dragon will *always* slay a knight in one-on-one battle, then I feel sorry for your lack of imagination.

By: Mykal

Mykal — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:30:30 +0000

As much as people seem to love Jaime, and as much as one of my friends will probably poke my eye out with a sharp stick, Temeraire really does have the advantage here. There’s really no way you can give Jaime the upper hand and sound remotely realistic. Just like kids were always afraid of the fat kid at lunch time, the giant dragon thumping down on you and rolling over is going to crush you to death. And that’s without any chocolate cake. A sword stick is a pinprick in the long run, to a dragon this size and caliber. Jaime is an M&M that will melt nicely in the big dragons mouth, and without any heavy plate armor to chew through! He wouldn’t hardly need a teeth cleaning after this, let alone a medic.
How many pinpricks does it take to get to the center of a dragon-pop? The world may never know.
Also, Naomi Novik has always captured my interest with her historical fiction. The scenario she creates was so unexpected, I laughed. Out loud. A lot.

By: Joe Dalton

Joe Dalton — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:45:45 +0000

Stupid 18th century dragons, yes… but he would be eaten by a single 19th clever dragon
Especially Temeraire, who is a celestial, the deadliest, fastest, strongest and most intelligent dragon specie of his world

By: azor_ahai

azor_ahai — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:00:04 +0000

jaime lannister would smash 100 stupid 18th century dragons. He is just too cool to lose

By: archon

archon — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:36:21 +0000

You must not have very much sense or logic yourself there kiddo… The Suvudu people would have to be seriously mentally handicapped to have set up this sort of tourney with these particular people if they intended it to be voted on by actual power… that would be like setting up an NCAA tournament with the top 30 college teams, and then throwing in the Cavaliers and Lakers… clearly popularity was intended. I mean let’s be serious… they used crippled Jaime. And as those of you who have read the books know, left-handed Jaime is barely an average swordsman, who knows full out that guys he considers chumps would own him if they knew how bad he was with his left hand… If this tournament was all about ability, left-handed Jaime sure as hell wouldn’t be in it…