Comments on: Cage Match 2011: Gollum versus Molly Millions

By: tsur

tsur — Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:09:59 +0000

the air in mordor is so poisned, if a cyborg like molly aould even step in it, she would simply rust…..

By: Troyana

Troyana — Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:46:32 +0000

Shit, I was sooo late… I’d have voted for Gollum!!

By: tsur

tsur — Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:03:48 +0000

if they fight in middle earth, golum would have an enourmous advantage, as i pointed out.
plus he ESCAPED MORDOR. oh, and in his cave, he actually ate orcs for dinner……
who said he dosent have the ring?

By: Aero182

Aero182 — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:58:14 +0000

I think you guys may underestimate Gollum. let’s look at him. He survived various tortures in Mordor to tell where the Ring was, he is obsessed with it and will do anything for it, He tricked two intelligent hobbits into a cave with a verylarge and dangerous spider in it, he outran both Gandalf AND Aragorn for a time, and he is so pitiful that it’s almost impossible for any self-respecting main character to kill.

By: AHEM

AHEM — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:35:34 +0000

Seriously, if Gollum doesn’t have the One Ring, why include him at all? He’s a tough little SOB and is ruthless and adaptable, but he isn’t a direct fighter and never was. He might be able to beat Tasselhoff, Martin, or FitzChivalry, but he’s not going up against any of them, and given the random selection this year, there was less than a 10% chance that he would.

If he at least could turn invisible, then he’d have a nasty trick ready, but as it is, he’s coming into battle unarmed and unprepared.

By: bargarhar

bargarhar — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:19:51 +0000

Voted Gollum because I want to see him fight Jon Snow.

By: tsur

tsur — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:18:35 +0000

in lotr the character power is depended on the soul and will of the character.
the amount of “goodness” and “godness” of the characters effects the characters magical powers and endurence.
characters are subjected to one of the great powers of the world, by race or by choice, and theire loyalty grant them powers. hence the streanth of angelic gandalf and the “surviving-to-the-end-despite-odds” of frodo.
the loyalty is a key power, and the temptation of the ring is a key element of the story.
sideshiftong is fatel in such a world. we can see how sarumen could not shift sides back, since he has changed his very essence.
gollum is not loyal to eather side.
he has no accense at all. he has givenup on ultimate universal values of this world. the powers that droped him from side to side and drained him of himself sent him there. hes god is “dead” and he made himself a new one, the one ring. he had failed to find a good truth and made an empty substitute.
he is depended on this thing complitly, but its also hes adventage. he is complitly indipandent of the powers themselves. an avidant is that he changed loyalty without shanging his values: its imposible. the side is the value.
and yet,he did that.
he did not care about morgoth, he did not risk himself for him. he risk himself because of the ring, and for himself. he actually found nothing wrong with it, since he did not mean to betrail at all. he did the first existential step of breaking free of outer essence, his mistake was simply his bad choice of the new forcing one.
as i said, it also gives him a magical, fatal and practical indepandence of the general destiny of moddle earth.
this would give him a chance right until the end of the ring. and a good chance if he hold it.

By: Dandin Storm

Dandin Storm — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:07:35 +0000

poor gollum

By: Duncan Watson

Duncan Watson — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 21:58:29 +0000

Gollum is dead meat. His biggest strength is that most people are aware of Lord of the Rings and not as many are familiar with Molly from the Neuromancer trilogy.

By: tsur

tsur — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:22:41 +0000

i simply dont think it is enough to kill gollum.
he should not be strong- but he did survive after tortured in mordor, escaped and then went the entire way back…
sauron is practically the DEVIL of tolkien’s world(theoretically not though) and he could not break him entiarly…
i mean, yes gollum did say some unclear messagesand gave info- but he did not care about the hobits, only about himself, the ring, and revenge maby.it only proofs his will of survival. and he did not die at the end of it all, and ESCAPED. yes gandalf had the assumption that he was a way for sauron to find the ring, but sauron dont just Release
people, i mean, he did use him, but i am sure he did nott mean to let him just go, as it turned out at the end. some how he survives everything.goes throu spiders nest eating orcs that mistook their way…
he lived to the age of 600, wile being a hunted and humiliated being wraped with trubles and despaire!
hobbits dont live that long even in good conditions. though he did have the ring…
plus hes mad.
and we could give him the ring, just to make it fare.