And in response to the previous comment, I know Jon cant throw himself in to other peoples minds but looking at some of the wildlings above the wall and the “Potiential” that is mentioned in the book about Jon, I assume at some point he might be able to do it – and also dont forget he didnt actually manage to take control of Vin. also on that point there is such a thing as creative license If GRRM doesn’t like whats written im sure he could do something about it, or he might even use it as inspiration for further updates to books

Personally I havent voted on any battles because i like to read them to get an insight into other authors styles and dont really care who wins at the end of the day (after all im not going to go and throw a winners party for an imaginary fantasy character )

After last years cage matches i have now read just about every novel Robert Fiest and Robert Jordon have written.

I intend to start reading about Vin soon, the magic system she uses seems quite alien to me so will be interesting to see another authors ideas.

imo keep it friendly, everyone has favourites, if they arent the same as yours just explain your position, get people interested in your character and you will end up making a fan of them im sure, After all we are all only reading these fights because we enjoy reading fantasy.

also In my honest opion wait till next years matches Daenerys Targaryen and co will ride her dragons to victory, Im sure every GRRM fan will spring from every corner of the earth when the TV Show hits HBO in a month or so time and when they realise dragons are on the horizon im sure it will be nice and exciting to read and if im honest i cant wait i love Dragons!

anyway in closing:

They are books created to entertain, they arent created to cause arguements so please comment nicely

all best

Me

@Bill
so it actually should read “This just in – Beloved Empress of the nation, our peoples greatest example of overcoming hard times and coming out on top, most feared woman in the land, kills yet another random soldier for the thousandth time, but this one had a dangerous pet.”
Not very newsworthy at all really.

I take it you’re not a big fan of Vin then?

She isn’t JUST an emo-street-rat at all. She is a ridicolously powerful young woman, who uses an extremely well thought of, written and imaginative. magic system. And need I mention the fact that in the 3rd book she’s an empress? Or to mention preservation????

Pfft.