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Cage Match 2011: Perrin Aybara versus Paul Atreides

The Contestants


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Perrin Aybara
Age: 20s
Race: Human
Weapons / Artifacts: Power-forged hammer
Battle Rage; can summon wolves

Paul Atreides
Paul Muad’Dib
Age: Early-30s
Race: Human
Weapons / Artifacts: Benne Gesserit Training

The Breakdown


  • Supernaturally keen senses
  • Telepathic link to wolves
  • He’s T’avaren – probability and chance bend to his needs

    • More-or-less a God
    • Prescience
    • Inhuman agility, strength and speed

    • Unseemly codependent relationship with his wife
    • Pacifist at heart

    • Melancholy and Self-defeating
    • Reliance on Spice


    How we think the fight will go

    Perrin stood sweating and exhausted in the wind-swept expanse of craggy barren land surveying his foe, pondering the unnerving effect the man’s blue-on-blue eyes had on him. Much the same impression his shining golden eyes must have had on many a stranger—from the look and smell of them. This wiry, black-haired man’s scent was almost as unsettling as the eyes. Stone cold determination. Not a hint of anything else, except for that pervasive pungent cinnamon. He must have been bathing in the stuff.

    Paul Atreides in turn leveled a calm but perplexed stare at the golden-eyed hulk. This primitive wild man had somehow managed to dodge or deflect several killing blows that should have landed squarely. Additionally, it seemed to Muad’Dib that this shaggy troglodyte somehow distorted space-time, rendering Paul’s prescient mind’s eye useless. Any attempts to wade into the sea of temporal probability threatened to drown his mind in a churning, choppy, probabilistic tsunami. He normally saw densely tangled timeline branches radiating from him in all directions in undulating waves full of futuristic flotsam. With pathways easily picked out, analyzed, and traversed. But since sighting this stranger, the probability waves thickened and multiplied almost to the point of suffocation. And the simple act of choosing a strand sucked him dizzyingly deeper into what must be false futures with infinite variations of the same end—Paul’s death at the stranger’s hands.

    Atreides pushed the thoughts aside roughly once again, and resolved to continue to probe the other man with more attacks until he could get a better baseline reading the old-fashioned way.

    Perrin noticed from the start that the stoic stranger used a method of fighting with hands and feet, very similar to the Aiel— fluidly leaping, gliding, spinning about from one move to the next with grace enough to make a dancer look like a drunken slattern. Perrin reminded himself: This dancer could kill with an impossibly accurate kick to the head. Focus!

    As if on cue, Muad’Dib charged Perrin once more, cutting hard to the right at the last second and forcing Perrin to adjust his stance. Paul vaulted into a spinning head-high kick before Perrin could bring his hammer around. Perrin ducked and jabbed his great hammer, spear-like, at Paul’s sternum. Paul landed in time to catch the hammer head and absorb most of the blow as he pushed off the thrust, using the force to carry him back a safe distance.

    Then he felt the searing pain.

    Muad’Dib brought his trembling hands up to inspect the puckered pink and red welts on his palms where his hands had made contact with the strange hammer. He gave but a moment’s pause to ponder the technology this apparently not-so-primitive man wielded. Then he ran through the old Bene Gesserit exercises, afterthoughts now, to slow his heart rate, calm himself, and shunt the scorching pain to the recesses of his mind. Alright—hands off the hammer.

    With his opponent’s reach advantage and ability to somehow disrupt Paul’s prescience this contest would be decided by control of the fighting distance. The Voice would be a distinct advantage… if he ever got a baseline reading from the wild man.

    It was almost like trying to read an animal, which even to his beyond-Ben-Gesserit mind were inscrutable. Or, more aptly, it was like reading a madman—whose expression, thoughts, and very being fluctuated with little rhyme or reason. But Paul had long since learned that in any closed system—which ultimately all men were, even this golden-eyed oddity—patterns could be gleaned from apparent chaos. All it took was time and data.

    As Paul lowered his hands, Perrin charged forward to press the advantage. Atreides dodged a flurry of slashes from the beast of a man strong enough to wield the hammer the way a normal man might use a two-handed broadsword. He dodged a backhand slash, whipping his head back at the last second to give the false impression that the blow had very nearly landed. Then he waited for the upswing he knew was coming, and at its apex would give him the moment he needed to…there! Paul sidestepped and Perrin overextended his upward slash. He lunged in behind Perrin, in anticipation of an elbow, which came screaming toward Paul’s nose faster than he would have thought possible. No matter, he was ready for it. He twisted away and grabbed Perrin’s descending arm—one hand just below the huge bicep and the other securely under the armpit, using the larger man’s own momentum—and a prodigy’s innate understanding of leverage—to whip him around violently, sending Perrin flying head over heels. Perrin landed hard on his right shoulder and rolled gracelessly in a sliding heap, face down, some ten feet distant.

    As Perrin slid to a stop, Paul took two quick bounding steps, and launched himself into the air with an arc and trajectory that would bring his falling knee down squarely on the back of the incapacitated man’s skull.

    His right knee landed with a muffled thump and an explosion of dirt and sand. Perrin rolled out of the way at the last second and jumped to his feet on unsteady legs. Paul wondered How? He must have heard me. This one has very keen senses…and instincts.

    Perrin stood panting, hammer still miraculously in his left hand, right arm dangling from what felt like a dislocated shoulder. His concentration appeared fixed firmly on Paul, but to Muad’Dib’s Bene Gesserit-trained eyes and Mentat mind, the minute changes that signaled an inward, almost meditative shift in concentration was an alarming clarion call. In the middle of this heated battle, which the bearded man must have known he had no chance of winning, the large man’s pulse had slowed, his eyes unfocused just the merest fraction, and his tension ebbed a hair’s width. All signs pointing to a marshalling of strength. He’s either got another trick up his tattered sleeves, or he’s signaling reinforcements. Either way, it’s time to move! Paul thought.

    Paul took in a deep slow breath, and barked “Drop your hammer!”

    Perrin was torn from his thoughts, and before he knew what was happening, he felt his hand spasm open of its own volition. The hammer thumped heavily to the ground. Perrin’s stunned half-second pause was more than enough time for Paul to cover the distance at full speed, leading with a fist to Perrin’s throat, followed by two shots to his left kidney and an upper-cut that was somehow blocked. Paul’s ferocious front kick to Perrin’s left knee made contact though, separating bone from ligaments and cartilage with a tearing pop and enough force to send Perrin down like a large hairy sack of oats.

    As he fell, a poison-tipped knife bloomed from Perrin’s chest, just above the heart. Poison-tipped just in case fate saw fit to twist the laws of probability in the large man’s favor—such as not planting the blade in Perrin’s heart. Paul couldn’t remember the last time he’d missed a target with any weapon by such a wide margin. No matter. Paul could see the poison was taking its effect on his opponent quickly, wracking the man with violent convulsions that made his veins stand out thickly as his face turned purple. The Kweisats Haderarch turned and strode away as the large young man’s eyes dimmed from burnished gold to dull yellow, and he died with a quiet sigh.

    Muad’Dib sensed invisible tension dissipating as space-time was loosed from the dead man’s grip to right itself.

    Predicted Winner: Paul Atreides


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    Perrin Aybarra is a character from the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson; Paul Atreides is a character from the Dune series by Frank Herbert, Brian Herbert, and Kevin Anderson

    Perrin image courtesy of John Seamas Gallagher. Paul Atreides image courtesy of Universal Pictures.

    Ndi Sampson contributed to this Cage Match

    117 Responses to “Cage Match 2011: Perrin Aybara versus Paul Atreides”

    1. Archon says:


      No, It’s not a popularity contest… see my above post… If you want to vote as though it IS a popularity contest… feel free, that’s your perogative… But don’t try to absolve yourself of being labled as a fanboy by suggesting that that’s what everyone is doing so it’s expected for you to do it… No, that’s NOT what EVERYONE is doing, and that’s not how the contest was designed… If It WERE intended as a popularity contest, they wouldn’t bother to put up combat-oriented statistics and do a combat write-up of each match… they would simply list the characters and tell everyone to vote on their favorite… It would be WAY easier for everyone that way…

    2. Chosen says:

      dose anyone else envision Archon as an angry old man in his bathrobe stomping his foot and yelling at those damn kids get off his lawn. I know I do, and I get laugh every time.

    3. TankSpill says:

      Wow, good job Perrin – even as a WoT Fan, I voted Paul (because it made the most sense), but I’m not going to l ie – it makes me happy Perrin won! :)

    4. Chosenmakesagoodpoint says:

      Stomp, Stomp, spit, Stomp, followed by more unintelligible ranting.

      @ Archon,

      Leave Archonneedsablankie alone. He called you out first and rightly so. You are pissing and moaning all over these boards in the most negative ways. Either you are fanboying for someone who lost already, or you are just trying to stir sh*t up.


      Thank you for being straightforward and for calling Archon out. Sick of his whining all over the boards. BTW, spice smokin’ sand monkeys….funniest thing I’ve ever read on these boards! Nice job!

    5. archon says:

      @Chosen & Chosenmakesagoodpoint

      I’m sorry, I thought I was dealing with rational people… you dorks clearly haven’t made out of school yet to understand that REAL debates in the grown-up world are won by making VALID points(as I have been doing)… whereas in little kiddy land, they are won by juvenille insults like yours that have nothing to do with the facts… When either of you two can gatehr enough brains to make a valid argument instead of resorting to elementary-school playground tactics, then you can come sit at the big table…

    6. fredpenner says:

      hmm this was clearly a popularity contest. I am a big fan of both books and as a character i like perrin more, and as a series i like wheel of time more, but c’mon paul atredes is the Rand Al’thor of his universe. He can literally see every possible future and react on it, and don’t give me that ta’vern junk, if anything Paul atredies would be a bigger ta’vern than Perrin. I love perrin but clearly he wouldn’t stand a hope in hell against Paul Atredies – and thats assuming paul doesn’t use any of his technological advantages (like a personal sheild that blocks anything swung with force) – just a one on one fist fight, Paul takes all without breaking a sweat.

    7. archon says:


      Careful Fredpenner… the kiddie squad will come by and throw insults at you for making valid points that they don’t like but have no valid argument against…

    8. andy says:

      where does it say who won?:D

    9. Wow says:

      Personally, I’m proud that the votes were so close. I’ve only read The Wheel of Time and i love Perrin, but guys seriously. Perrin is a Great character but we all know that he CAN die. I mean what if the pattern spun it out that he died then the Horn brought him back at the last battle? we don’t know. But due to the fact that the votes were so close, we can see that the diehard fans are learning.


      I feel like you need to calm down a little bit. I see your points, and they are valid; but you don’t have to freak out so much. This competition is for fun. It’s a place where fans of good books can see other good books.

      @ any other Wheel of Tome fan

      please don’t hate me

    10. Ampoliros says:

      I just want to protest the listing of Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson as being credited along with Frank Herbert.

      Frank Herbert created Paul, BH & KJA have done nothing but tear down his myth.

    11. bobcat says:

      Perrin is a good character but Paul Atreides can’t be beat.

      Lazer guns
      Mind Control
      Can See the future
      Is the product of centuries of specific breeding to create a god-like being
      controls the known universe
      and most importantly
      …….Has ridden the mighty worm.

    12. Sam says:

      While I’m not happy Perrin won, I think it’s cool that it was such a narrow margin. This really does deserve a close contest.

    13. James says:

      i will vote perrin everytime he battles just because he is the only char i know besides Zed, who has already been beatn

    14. Immortal_ says:

      Woooow. LOL Perrin.. Sorry this outcome has made it impossible not to comment. As someone who is a long time fan of both WOT and DUNE sagas, and has read each entire series more than once.. I have to say this outcome is unreal.. in how fake and wrong it is. The only way Perrin would win is if Paul decided he was too weary of the world and it was his time to go and LET Perrin win.. the ONLY way.. and I love Perrin.. but Paul could make him explode internally with a word.. he could move so fast that Perrin couldn’t even react.. etc. and so on. so rediculous… Even if being Taveran kicked in, Perrin would be too busy suckling at Fayle’s teet to even fight.. then he’d probably trip over hopper and fall into the wolf dream on accident, realize that yes, he threw away his axe for his hammer and has no way to fight, and fail to figure out how to leave the dream while Paul slit his throat with a tooth of Shai Halud and gave his water back to the sand. I think Perrin is probably even more melancholy than Paul, and that is saying something. There just isn’t any hope for Perrin I’m sorry.. weak outcome.. Rand on the other hand.. now THAT would be a sick matchup for Paul. Carry on. =)

    15. Beard says:

      I am so disappointed that this was the result. Anyone who has read Dune would know that this match up would be like pinning Rand Al’Thor in his prime against a kitten.

      Paul has the ability to
      - See every possible future and make them become so. (For WoT readers, he can control the pattern)
      - He can move as fast as humanly possible (literally as fast as possible, he has perfect control of his muscle nuerons and has trained from birth to master them)
      - He is one of the greatest weapon masters in a universe making his hand to hand combat already greater than Perrin.
      - He has mind control, and can mind control the people who created mind control and mastered it.
      - Took over the universe in his teenage years because thats what you do.
      - Did i mention he is a god?

    16. Beard says:

      am so disappointed that this was the result. Anyone who has read Dune would know that this match up would be like pinning Rand Al’Thor in his prime against a kitten.

      Paul has the ability to
      - See every possible future and make them become so. (For WoT readers, he can control the pattern)
      - He can move as fast as humanly possible (literally as fast as possible, he has perfect control of his muscle nuerons and has trained from birth to master them)
      - He is one of the greatest weapon masters in a universe making his hand to hand combat already greater than Perrin.
      - He has mind control, and can mind control the people who created mind control and mastered it.
      - Took over the universe in his teenage years because thats what you do.
      - Did i mention he is a god?

    17. Tarun says:

      I am so surprised to see so many votes for Perrin. This leads me to believe that none of those voters have ever read the Dune series at all. Anyone who has read WOT and DUNE both wouldn’t ever vote for Perrin.

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