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	<title>Comments on: Cage Match 2011: Quick Ben versus Perrin Aybara</title>
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		<title>By: Rhulad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhulad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LOL Troll more! Please! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LOL Troll more! Please! <img src='http://suvudu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not disappointed with the outcome, but I think Perrin went down awful fast for someone who recently (according to the books) led a charge down a hill into a swarm of man-beasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not disappointed with the outcome, but I think Perrin went down awful fast for someone who recently (according to the books) led a charge down a hill into a swarm of man-beasts.</p>
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		<title>By: LOL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Archon, your still a fkn bitter piece of internet trash. GFU

To those who think QB fans didn&#039;t cheat: Why is it that there are more votes for QB in this match that were acumulated by both QB and VIN in their matchup.......U R this biggest dbags. At least some fans can admit that they took advantage of the system. Dont you dare pretend that you won this match clean.

@ Rhulad: Can I borrow it from you. They tell me at the library you were the last one to check it out.... GFU

@ Orange Turnip: We advertised it?! Do you know where that page got it from?! A Vin support group.....hmmmmmm a lil research on your part would go a long way. GFU

Who else needs a GFU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha</p>
<p>Archon, your still a fkn bitter piece of internet trash. GFU</p>
<p>To those who think QB fans didn&#8217;t cheat: Why is it that there are more votes for QB in this match that were acumulated by both QB and VIN in their matchup&#8230;&#8230;.U R this biggest dbags. At least some fans can admit that they took advantage of the system. Dont you dare pretend that you won this match clean.</p>
<p>@ Rhulad: Can I borrow it from you. They tell me at the library you were the last one to check it out&#8230;. GFU</p>
<p>@ Orange Turnip: We advertised it?! Do you know where that page got it from?! A Vin support group&#8230;..hmmmmmm a lil research on your part would go a long way. GFU</p>
<p>Who else needs a GFU?</p>
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		<title>By: Archon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 04:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very eloquently stated Rhulad lol...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very eloquently stated Rhulad lol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rhulad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhulad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lol
Worst troll I&#039;ve seen in ages. Shouldn&#039;t you be playing WoW, starting flame-wars in trade chat? I can remember when trolls (though still annoying) actually had a point. I suggest the book &quot;Trolling for Dummies&quot; dude.

I am still of the opinion that Quick Ben might be a bit too over-powered for this tourney. I love Perrin, but am also of the opinion that (as far as progression goes in each series) Perrin is still unsure of himself, and his powers. While Quick Ben has very nearly ascended to god-hood. I considered the write-up kinda &quot;meh&quot;. Don&#039;t think Perrin would have lost in that manner, but he would have eventually lost.

Can&#039;t say i know much about this Vin character as I have yet to read the series. I&#039;ve heard she is pretty deadly though. My vote is still for Quick Ben (1 vote as always, so suck my asshole taco-benders).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lol<br />
Worst troll I&#8217;ve seen in ages. Shouldn&#8217;t you be playing WoW, starting flame-wars in trade chat? I can remember when trolls (though still annoying) actually had a point. I suggest the book &#8220;Trolling for Dummies&#8221; dude.</p>
<p>I am still of the opinion that Quick Ben might be a bit too over-powered for this tourney. I love Perrin, but am also of the opinion that (as far as progression goes in each series) Perrin is still unsure of himself, and his powers. While Quick Ben has very nearly ascended to god-hood. I considered the write-up kinda &#8220;meh&#8221;. Don&#8217;t think Perrin would have lost in that manner, but he would have eventually lost.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say i know much about this Vin character as I have yet to read the series. I&#8217;ve heard she is pretty deadly though. My vote is still for Quick Ben (1 vote as always, so suck my asshole taco-benders).</p>
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		<title>By: Archon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 02:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ lol

1) I don&#039;t have a side at this point... Both Vin and QB are deserving champions. I wouldn&#039;t be disapointed if either of them won.

2) Enough people supported a &quot;fandom that includes people like me&quot; to defeat the fandom that clearly included people like you... sometimes I wonder if some of you people even read the comments you write since you don&#039;t seem to realize how horribly they are about to get knocked out of the ballpark...

Go suffer alone with your bitterness loser... those of us who voted for the rightful finalists are perfectly content right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ lol</p>
<p>1) I don&#8217;t have a side at this point&#8230; Both Vin and QB are deserving champions. I wouldn&#8217;t be disapointed if either of them won.</p>
<p>2) Enough people supported a &#8220;fandom that includes people like me&#8221; to defeat the fandom that clearly included people like you&#8230; sometimes I wonder if some of you people even read the comments you write since you don&#8217;t seem to realize how horribly they are about to get knocked out of the ballpark&#8230;</p>
<p>Go suffer alone with your bitterness loser&#8230; those of us who voted for the rightful finalists are perfectly content right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 00:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way the fight is described is total BS. An illusion wouldn&#039;t make the wolves unable to recognize Perrin. He&#039;s telepathically linked to them. So....Fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way the fight is described is total BS. An illusion wouldn&#8217;t make the wolves unable to recognize Perrin. He&#8217;s telepathically linked to them. So&#8230;.Fail.</p>
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		<title>By: ProviD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProviD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn those (overpowered as whole) magic-users!
I demand a fair fisticuffs as a rematch! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn those (overpowered as whole) magic-users!<br />
I demand a fair fisticuffs as a rematch! <img src='http://suvudu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Orange Turnip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orange Turnip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 03:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LOL

Thanks to the WoT FB page of which I was a member, until all this crap about Terez happened and I decided I didn&#039;t want to belong to a group like that, I now know private browsing exists. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if everyone now knows. You should be ashamed at yourselves - not for cheating but for being so goddamn stupid as to advertise the fact!

At least now it will come down to whoever has the most dedicated fanbase. I think that on single votes alone Vin would win giving the past poll numbers but then we can&#039;t be sure how accurate those were anymore. Either way, from what I have seen of these Malazan supporters with everyone being on equal footing now with this multiple votes thing I feel they are likely to win. They seem to have an almost unhealthy obsession and complete dedication in regards to seeing Quick Ben win.

I have read Mistborn and I have now read the first three Malazan books. I feel that this will be a close match up and it will come down to whoever gets in first and attacks the fastest that will determine who wins. Though, I have noticed that Quick Ben often works as a duo while Vin doesn&#039;t rely on her allies as much. I think in a realistic battle Quick Ben would engage the help of Kalam/Fiddler or another of his team mates to ensure his victory. However, I don&#039;t think people would be happy with that write up despite it being most likely. Take away Quick Ben&#039;s allies and he is just as powerful, if not more, then Vin - give Quick Ben his allies and I can&#039;t forsee him ever losing against anyone.

My vote will be going to Quick Ben in the final round though depending on what the write up is I may have to flip a coin to decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LOL</p>
<p>Thanks to the WoT FB page of which I was a member, until all this crap about Terez happened and I decided I didn&#8217;t want to belong to a group like that, I now know private browsing exists. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if everyone now knows. You should be ashamed at yourselves &#8211; not for cheating but for being so goddamn stupid as to advertise the fact!</p>
<p>At least now it will come down to whoever has the most dedicated fanbase. I think that on single votes alone Vin would win giving the past poll numbers but then we can&#8217;t be sure how accurate those were anymore. Either way, from what I have seen of these Malazan supporters with everyone being on equal footing now with this multiple votes thing I feel they are likely to win. They seem to have an almost unhealthy obsession and complete dedication in regards to seeing Quick Ben win.</p>
<p>I have read Mistborn and I have now read the first three Malazan books. I feel that this will be a close match up and it will come down to whoever gets in first and attacks the fastest that will determine who wins. Though, I have noticed that Quick Ben often works as a duo while Vin doesn&#8217;t rely on her allies as much. I think in a realistic battle Quick Ben would engage the help of Kalam/Fiddler or another of his team mates to ensure his victory. However, I don&#8217;t think people would be happy with that write up despite it being most likely. Take away Quick Ben&#8217;s allies and he is just as powerful, if not more, then Vin &#8211; give Quick Ben his allies and I can&#8217;t forsee him ever losing against anyone.</p>
<p>My vote will be going to Quick Ben in the final round though depending on what the write up is I may have to flip a coin to decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Tsavard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tsavard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets speak of this threw actual book lore, without trying to get facts out of nowhere. 

To poeple of havent read Malazan book of the fallen ... 1st DO IT ! you owe it to yourself, it is truly a masterpiece.

Ok, Malazan magic come from warren ( kinda like elemental plane ). A  wizard can only attune to 1 warren (death (necro), life ( healer ), mind (psychic ) earth, wind, etc)  Now, there was a magical purge done by the stronest empire on earth,  a mage is already rare, but a High mage is excessively rare. During that purge, 12 High Mage decide to merge their souls together and empty their body to fake their death while fleeing the strongest elite army of that empire. The resulting wizard, Quick Ben, have access to ALL warrens, even some of the Elder warren, who are suppose to be unaccessible to humans.

So if he decide to make an illusion using Mokra warren ( the warren of the mind which seems to be his strongest ) , hes not creating an image on the ground that is seemly visible adn trying to alter the reality around that image, hes putting the image into your brain, and makes you beleive you can smell, taste feel whatever he wants. In the latest part of the book, as he develop his powers, he have been able to do such illusions on whole armies. So to get the wolves to think Perrin is him isnt hard, even to a massive pack of wolves.

Now, if Perrin could access your Tar at will in middle of the fight ( if he have done it in the books ) that I&#039;d say they would probably be on fair ground, since this magic would cancel each other. Even than, I&#039;m pretty sure QB would win. He&#039;s used to going into warrens, and manipulating their energy, so he would find instantly what is this Tar world and figure out how it works.   QB have won this fair and square.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets speak of this threw actual book lore, without trying to get facts out of nowhere. </p>
<p>To poeple of havent read Malazan book of the fallen &#8230; 1st DO IT ! you owe it to yourself, it is truly a masterpiece.</p>
<p>Ok, Malazan magic come from warren ( kinda like elemental plane ). A  wizard can only attune to 1 warren (death (necro), life ( healer ), mind (psychic ) earth, wind, etc)  Now, there was a magical purge done by the stronest empire on earth,  a mage is already rare, but a High mage is excessively rare. During that purge, 12 High Mage decide to merge their souls together and empty their body to fake their death while fleeing the strongest elite army of that empire. The resulting wizard, Quick Ben, have access to ALL warrens, even some of the Elder warren, who are suppose to be unaccessible to humans.</p>
<p>So if he decide to make an illusion using Mokra warren ( the warren of the mind which seems to be his strongest ) , hes not creating an image on the ground that is seemly visible adn trying to alter the reality around that image, hes putting the image into your brain, and makes you beleive you can smell, taste feel whatever he wants. In the latest part of the book, as he develop his powers, he have been able to do such illusions on whole armies. So to get the wolves to think Perrin is him isnt hard, even to a massive pack of wolves.</p>
<p>Now, if Perrin could access your Tar at will in middle of the fight ( if he have done it in the books ) that I&#8217;d say they would probably be on fair ground, since this magic would cancel each other. Even than, I&#8217;m pretty sure QB would win. He&#8217;s used to going into warrens, and manipulating their energy, so he would find instantly what is this Tar world and figure out how it works.   QB have won this fair and square.</p>
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