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	<title>Comments on: Cage Match 2011: Quick Ben versus Solomon Kane</title>
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		<title>By: Tarun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is unbelievable. Quick Ben knows all about munitions and gunpowder and he certainly is going to divest Solomon of all his weapons before trying to speak with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is unbelievable. Quick Ben knows all about munitions and gunpowder and he certainly is going to divest Solomon of all his weapons before trying to speak with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Harron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Harron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lepus is correct.  The sword and pistol aren&#039;t what Ben has to watch out for, it&#039;s the Staff of Solomon: not only does it predate humanity, it very likely predates the formation of the planet Earth.  It&#039;s seriously powerful voodoo we have here.  If Kane gets a good stab with it, it could easily be sufficient to destroy Ben.  Assuming he gets a good stab, and I get the distinct impression Ben wouldn&#039;t let that happen.

This is why I hate these: you&#039;re putting mortal warriors against stupidly powerful beings.  It&#039;s as bad as when Rand Al&#039;Thor was in last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lepus is correct.  The sword and pistol aren&#8217;t what Ben has to watch out for, it&#8217;s the Staff of Solomon: not only does it predate humanity, it very likely predates the formation of the planet Earth.  It&#8217;s seriously powerful voodoo we have here.  If Kane gets a good stab with it, it could easily be sufficient to destroy Ben.  Assuming he gets a good stab, and I get the distinct impression Ben wouldn&#8217;t let that happen.</p>
<p>This is why I hate these: you&#8217;re putting mortal warriors against stupidly powerful beings.  It&#8217;s as bad as when Rand Al&#8217;Thor was in last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Archon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Write up is irrelevant in this case... the vote totals clearly show that the fans know the Malazan series far better than the site writers do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Write up is irrelevant in this case&#8230; the vote totals clearly show that the fans know the Malazan series far better than the site writers do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ThinkingMalaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThinkingMalaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also what is this stuff about Quick&#039;s weakness being the 12 (not 7) souls in his body. The one thing that makes him so special; is that all the sould have found an equilibrium. Never, and I do mean NEVER in the Malazan book of the fallen is the fact the Quick ben houses 12 souls caused him even the slightest discomfort. Quick Ben definietly has his weaknesses, but this is not one of them. I think Quick Ben&#039;s main weakness is the combinartion between curiosity and arrogance. It&#039;s well earned arrogance for the most part, but it is the one thing that does get him into some major trouble *fanboy mode* Mainly being thrust in front of Icarium by Shadowthrone instead of being able to help Kalam because of a deal he made with shadowthrone* Other than that he actually has very few true weaknesses in the books. In fact he likes to appear weaker than he actually is, because, well because he&#039;s a paranoid devious bastard, who doesn&#039;t like to show his hand to anyone, not even his longtime firend and squad partner kalam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also what is this stuff about Quick&#8217;s weakness being the 12 (not 7) souls in his body. The one thing that makes him so special; is that all the sould have found an equilibrium. Never, and I do mean NEVER in the Malazan book of the fallen is the fact the Quick ben houses 12 souls caused him even the slightest discomfort. Quick Ben definietly has his weaknesses, but this is not one of them. I think Quick Ben&#8217;s main weakness is the combinartion between curiosity and arrogance. It&#8217;s well earned arrogance for the most part, but it is the one thing that does get him into some major trouble *fanboy mode* Mainly being thrust in front of Icarium by Shadowthrone instead of being able to help Kalam because of a deal he made with shadowthrone* Other than that he actually has very few true weaknesses in the books. In fact he likes to appear weaker than he actually is, because, well because he&#8217;s a paranoid devious bastard, who doesn&#8217;t like to show his hand to anyone, not even his longtime firend and squad partner kalam</p>
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		<title>By: Kruppe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kruppe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, not to nerd out too much, but Quick Ben gets stronger after his fight with Icarium, not weaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, not to nerd out too much, but Quick Ben gets stronger after his fight with Icarium, not weaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaiden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solomon Kane upon refusing to avert violence begins to pull his gun on the still sitting form of Quick Ben only to feel an odd wrenching sensation in his chest. He looks down to find too mismatched knives, one oddly miscouloured sticking from his chest.
\got you\
He is dead before he hit the ground. From behind him a large bearish man suddenly becomes visible.
\what was that crap about you wanting his help? You barely even trust me too do that and ive known you most of your fucking life!\
\Just wanted too see if hed use that staff was all, it looks rather interesting\
\What about the staff\
\Some kind of Artifact, The man seems to be some equivalent of Mortal Sword\
\And why do you want to mess around with the local god?\
To this Quick just shot him a quick arrogant grin. Kalam, infuriated, looked down at the Otataral blade in his hand... and considered...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solomon Kane upon refusing to avert violence begins to pull his gun on the still sitting form of Quick Ben only to feel an odd wrenching sensation in his chest. He looks down to find too mismatched knives, one oddly miscouloured sticking from his chest.<br />
\got you\<br />
He is dead before he hit the ground. From behind him a large bearish man suddenly becomes visible.<br />
\what was that crap about you wanting his help? You barely even trust me too do that and ive known you most of your fucking life!\<br />
\Just wanted too see if hed use that staff was all, it looks rather interesting\<br />
\What about the staff\<br />
\Some kind of Artifact, The man seems to be some equivalent of Mortal Sword\<br />
\And why do you want to mess around with the local god?\<br />
To this Quick just shot him a quick arrogant grin. Kalam, infuriated, looked down at the Otataral blade in his hand&#8230; and considered&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Annabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 03:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lepus, I agree that Solomon would probably be able to resist magic, but that&#039;s not how Quick Ben works. He&#039;d more likely use magic to affect the physical world around Solomon, like creating a sudden gaping hole in the ground under Kane, turning the air to fire leaving Kane nothing but fire to breathe, making the area pitch black and full of fog, creating phantom images of himself while he is himself invisible, etc etc Solomon is stubborn, but he&#039;s not exactly subtle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lepus, I agree that Solomon would probably be able to resist magic, but that&#8217;s not how Quick Ben works. He&#8217;d more likely use magic to affect the physical world around Solomon, like creating a sudden gaping hole in the ground under Kane, turning the air to fire leaving Kane nothing but fire to breathe, making the area pitch black and full of fog, creating phantom images of himself while he is himself invisible, etc etc Solomon is stubborn, but he&#8217;s not exactly subtle</p>
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		<title>By: Lepus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lepus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I certainly think Quick would win this match, you people seem to be selling Solomon Kane pretty short here. Kane, as an early fantasy hero, had the ability to pretty much do what was needed to take care of business and has used sheer stubbornness to topple plenty of supernatural beasties that should by all accounts tear him to bits in no time flat. As for equipment, the sword and pistols are, frankly, null entities here. The real mystery item in the mix is the Staff of Solomon. It was literally used by the King Solomon, as in the Biblical hero, to ruin the day of many a djinn and is implied to have taken down a bajillion nameless fantastic nasties in the past. It&#039;s a magic item that certainly would do a lot to level the playing field. Again, I don&#039;t think that can stand up to the terrible might of Quick Ben, but a one sided fight is something you wouldn&#039;t see here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I certainly think Quick would win this match, you people seem to be selling Solomon Kane pretty short here. Kane, as an early fantasy hero, had the ability to pretty much do what was needed to take care of business and has used sheer stubbornness to topple plenty of supernatural beasties that should by all accounts tear him to bits in no time flat. As for equipment, the sword and pistols are, frankly, null entities here. The real mystery item in the mix is the Staff of Solomon. It was literally used by the King Solomon, as in the Biblical hero, to ruin the day of many a djinn and is implied to have taken down a bajillion nameless fantastic nasties in the past. It&#8217;s a magic item that certainly would do a lot to level the playing field. Again, I don&#8217;t think that can stand up to the terrible might of Quick Ben, but a one sided fight is something you wouldn&#8217;t see here.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW.</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick Ben is a master of deceit and a cunning planner.  I believe Mr. Kane would have found himself experiencing the full effects of a cusser left to tip over the top of the front door when he entered.  BANG!  By By Mr. Kane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick Ben is a master of deceit and a cunning planner.  I believe Mr. Kane would have found himself experiencing the full effects of a cusser left to tip over the top of the front door when he entered.  BANG!  By By Mr. Kane.</p>
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		<title>By: cicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few things that haven&#039;t been mentioned...

Quick Ben is sometimes called Quick, sometimes called Delat, sometimes High Mage... never, ever Ben though. (Nitpicky, but still valid)

Everything everyone has said here about the inaccurate portrayal of warren magic is correct.

Quick was weakened in the short-term following his battle with Icarium. In the long-term, it actually strengthened him - or as he put it, caused him to &quot;stretch himself,&quot; and made him &quot;nastier.&quot; As soon in Reaper&#039;s Gale, he is ridiculously more potent as a result of having to push himself to his absolute limit with Icarium than he was previously. The man took out 3 dragons. Come on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few things that haven&#8217;t been mentioned&#8230;</p>
<p>Quick Ben is sometimes called Quick, sometimes called Delat, sometimes High Mage&#8230; never, ever Ben though. (Nitpicky, but still valid)</p>
<p>Everything everyone has said here about the inaccurate portrayal of warren magic is correct.</p>
<p>Quick was weakened in the short-term following his battle with Icarium. In the long-term, it actually strengthened him &#8211; or as he put it, caused him to &#8220;stretch himself,&#8221; and made him &#8220;nastier.&#8221; As soon in Reaper&#8217;s Gale, he is ridiculously more potent as a result of having to push himself to his absolute limit with Icarium than he was previously. The man took out 3 dragons. Come on.</p>
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