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	<title>Comments on: Cage Match 2011: Takeshi Kovacs versus Jon Snow</title>
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		<title>By: Ann Koo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Koo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Kovacs needs is a shard gun dialed to the widest aperture and Jon Snow&#039;s red mist along with Ghost. Having read all of the Takeshi Kovacs novels as well as reading up on ASoIaF, there&#039;s no way in hell Snow wins this one, Ghost or not. Also, someone spread that misconception that Kovacs is an assassin who can only fight from the shadows. Need I mention that his final fight in Altered Carbon was physical, hands-on combat? He did the same thing in Woken Furies and was highly competent at taking someone down fast. 

The one thing that would kill Snow the fastest is that Kovacs has no violence inhibitor; he has to work to restrain himself from killing someone. His concept of honor is different from Snow&#039;s, which would be a disadvantage to the Stark boy. If anything, Kovacs would go in for the kill and not leave Snow any time to get a killing advantage. Sure, Kovacs has been killed before in his own series but only by someone wielding a gun that can turn your insides into one big gory hole. By instinctual and bred reflexes alone, never mind weapon advantage, Kovacs has this in the bag. Also, if that Tebbit knife is the one he acquires in Altered Carbon, all he needs to do is get Snow with the poisoned edge. That will kill Snow in the time it takes for him to breathe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Kovacs needs is a shard gun dialed to the widest aperture and Jon Snow&#8217;s red mist along with Ghost. Having read all of the Takeshi Kovacs novels as well as reading up on ASoIaF, there&#8217;s no way in hell Snow wins this one, Ghost or not. Also, someone spread that misconception that Kovacs is an assassin who can only fight from the shadows. Need I mention that his final fight in Altered Carbon was physical, hands-on combat? He did the same thing in Woken Furies and was highly competent at taking someone down fast. </p>
<p>The one thing that would kill Snow the fastest is that Kovacs has no violence inhibitor; he has to work to restrain himself from killing someone. His concept of honor is different from Snow&#8217;s, which would be a disadvantage to the Stark boy. If anything, Kovacs would go in for the kill and not leave Snow any time to get a killing advantage. Sure, Kovacs has been killed before in his own series but only by someone wielding a gun that can turn your insides into one big gory hole. By instinctual and bred reflexes alone, never mind weapon advantage, Kovacs has this in the bag. Also, if that Tebbit knife is the one he acquires in Altered Carbon, all he needs to do is get Snow with the poisoned edge. That will kill Snow in the time it takes for him to breathe.</p>
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		<title>By: akos medveczki</title>
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		<dc:creator>akos medveczki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A, Kovach is super human,
B,has at least100 hundred years of compat experience
C,Any kind of gun,even the crudest penetrates chainmail from 30 paces, 25th handcannons do it from 2000.John will still die, and his lucky Kovacs hasn&#039;t got a Sunjet.( Ghost mght wound Kovach if he is unlucky,but not kill him since he has a knife, but probably the first gunshot will frighten the soul out of Ghost for a moment, having never encounteterd such a thing before, and the secon will pass trough it&#039;s head)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A, Kovach is super human,<br />
B,has at least100 hundred years of compat experience<br />
C,Any kind of gun,even the crudest penetrates chainmail from 30 paces, 25th handcannons do it from 2000.John will still die, and his lucky Kovacs hasn&#8217;t got a Sunjet.( Ghost mght wound Kovach if he is unlucky,but not kill him since he has a knife, but probably the first gunshot will frighten the soul out of Ghost for a moment, having never encounteterd such a thing before, and the secon will pass trough it&#8217;s head)</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Echoing \John Umber\ -- Kovacs has literally *hundreds* of years of combat experience, and perhaps more importantly, a gun.  Kovacs would never let the dude get close enough to him to use the sword.  Gun beats chainmail and sword every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Echoing \John Umber\ &#8212; Kovacs has literally *hundreds* of years of combat experience, and perhaps more importantly, a gun.  Kovacs would never let the dude get close enough to him to use the sword.  Gun beats chainmail and sword every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 17:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree, there is no way Tak is losing this match.  A better match would have been Ringil Angeleyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree, there is no way Tak is losing this match.  A better match would have been Ringil Angeleyes.</p>
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		<title>By: emper</title>
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		<dc:creator>emper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call bull on this one.

Sorry, bhut Kovacs is  a completely cold sonofa.... he&#039;d just put a few slugs in the guy and be done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call bull on this one.</p>
<p>Sorry, bhut Kovacs is  a completely cold sonofa&#8230;. he&#8217;d just put a few slugs in the guy and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: darkskye55</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkskye55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 03:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actully, to be very picky, ghost does make one noise, in all 4 books in GRRM&#039;s series it happens once. when the dire wolves are first found as the stark boys are walking away jon hears a soft wimper that draws him to ghost who had crawled away from the other littermates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actully, to be very picky, ghost does make one noise, in all 4 books in GRRM&#8217;s series it happens once. when the dire wolves are first found as the stark boys are walking away jon hears a soft wimper that draws him to ghost who had crawled away from the other littermates.</p>
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		<title>By: Hungarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hungarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hungarians aren&#039;t Slavic or whatever, they are Magyar (separate &quot;race&quot;), and their language is Finno-Ugrian which ain&#039;t Slavic either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hungarians aren&#8217;t Slavic or whatever, they are Magyar (separate &#8220;race&#8221;), and their language is Finno-Ugrian which ain&#8217;t Slavic either.</p>
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		<title>By: The Great John Umber</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Great John Umber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harle
&quot;If you were to separate Frodo and Shelob from the narrative and hold one of these silly contests you people would be making the same argument.&quot;


You know that Frodo lost to Shelob right?

Btw read the book.  Kovac&#039;s is good but he gets the mess kicked out of him plenty of times.  He just wouldn&#039;t lose to Jon Snow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harle<br />
&#8220;If you were to separate Frodo and Shelob from the narrative and hold one of these silly contests you people would be making the same argument.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know that Frodo lost to Shelob right?</p>
<p>Btw read the book.  Kovac&#8217;s is good but he gets the mess kicked out of him plenty of times.  He just wouldn&#8217;t lose to Jon Snow.</p>
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		<title>By: The Great John Umber</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Great John Umber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Starks are a tough bunch indeed but far from unbeatable, as I can attest.  Having talked to other members of the Night&#039;s Watch I know that Lord Stark&#039;s byblow is only a competant swords man with potential.  

In the cold winters of the North I remember reading the Kovac trilogy.  Kovacs was sending skilled fighters to their grave before Snow was even an itch in Lord Starks britches.  The first shot from the gun would have taken Snow&#039;s arm off at the shoulder.  There is a reason why chain mail when away with the invention of gunpowder.  It doesn&#039;t wok.

Snow might have eventually won but it would have been inside the body of Ghost as a bloody Werewolf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Starks are a tough bunch indeed but far from unbeatable, as I can attest.  Having talked to other members of the Night&#8217;s Watch I know that Lord Stark&#8217;s byblow is only a competant swords man with potential.  </p>
<p>In the cold winters of the North I remember reading the Kovac trilogy.  Kovacs was sending skilled fighters to their grave before Snow was even an itch in Lord Starks britches.  The first shot from the gun would have taken Snow&#8217;s arm off at the shoulder.  There is a reason why chain mail when away with the invention of gunpowder.  It doesn&#8217;t wok.</p>
<p>Snow might have eventually won but it would have been inside the body of Ghost as a bloody Werewolf.</p>
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		<title>By: Dasaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dasaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the &#039;cs&#039; in Kovacs is pronounced &#039;ch&#039; in Hungarian, by the way it&#039;s a Hungarian name, in Slavic the &#039;ch&#039; sound is written something like č,ć or the like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the &#8216;cs&#8217; in Kovacs is pronounced &#8216;ch&#8217; in Hungarian, by the way it&#8217;s a Hungarian name, in Slavic the &#8216;ch&#8217; sound is written something like č,ć or the like.</p>
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