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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://sf-fantasy.suvudu.com/2011/04/cage-match-2011-the-final-is-set.html/comment-page-1#comment-27989</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like both characters a lot, although I have a preference for Vin as a character. Having read all the Mistborn Books and up to \Toll the Hounds\ in the Malazan series, I&#039;m of the opinion that Vin has had more exciting fights and has been able to show off a lot more (although I probably would chalk this up to the fact that I find the creative acrobatics and mixture of melee and magic that Mistborn magic provides more than the slightly more straightforward warren magic of Erikson&#039;s world). However, Quick Ben is definitely in possession of more raw power, not to mention the fact that he has tremendous intelligence, craftiness, and the ability to choose the battlefield through his warrens. I would say Quick is outmatched  when it comes to close-range combat and raw speed and strength though. However Vin would likely find it hard to bring such advantages to bear against someone who could probably toast her before it came to in-fighting, so I think I&#039;ll give it to Quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like both characters a lot, although I have a preference for Vin as a character. Having read all the Mistborn Books and up to \Toll the Hounds\ in the Malazan series, I&#8217;m of the opinion that Vin has had more exciting fights and has been able to show off a lot more (although I probably would chalk this up to the fact that I find the creative acrobatics and mixture of melee and magic that Mistborn magic provides more than the slightly more straightforward warren magic of Erikson&#8217;s world). However, Quick Ben is definitely in possession of more raw power, not to mention the fact that he has tremendous intelligence, craftiness, and the ability to choose the battlefield through his warrens. I would say Quick is outmatched  when it comes to close-range combat and raw speed and strength though. However Vin would likely find it hard to bring such advantages to bear against someone who could probably toast her before it came to in-fighting, so I think I&#8217;ll give it to Quick.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the Vin vs. Quick Ben cage match is that doing a good write up is going to be hard, because an extended fight isn&#039;t very plausible. If Vin wins, she&#039;s going to win fast, burning through her metals to get within melee range with atium burning (at which point, scratch one Quick Ben). And if Quick survives Vin&#039;s initial rush, then he&#039;s got a lot of tricks she can&#039;t counter except by knowing them in advance and getting otu of the way (which takes atium, which she almost certainly doesn&#039;t have a lot of).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the Vin vs. Quick Ben cage match is that doing a good write up is going to be hard, because an extended fight isn&#8217;t very plausible. If Vin wins, she&#8217;s going to win fast, burning through her metals to get within melee range with atium burning (at which point, scratch one Quick Ben). And if Quick survives Vin&#8217;s initial rush, then he&#8217;s got a lot of tricks she can&#8217;t counter except by knowing them in advance and getting otu of the way (which takes atium, which she almost certainly doesn&#8217;t have a lot of).</p>
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		<title>By: Radmer van der Mei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radmer van der Mei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 10:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great match, I really love both serie&#039;s and i think both have some of the best endings i ever read. How magnificent was the crippled god and the outcome of the Hero of ages was more then perfect in my eyes. It&#039;s a hard choice but if you compare both of them I think I have to go with Quick Ben. He is just to strong, I mean atium helps only a little and just don&#039;t think there is a thing Vin can throw a Quick to give him more than a scratch. On the other hand, real strength doesn&#039;t really matter. it&#039;s just us voting but it will be a great fight and i&#039;m curius. atium, oteral, warrens, bridgeburners, bonehunters, kalam, Sazed, Eland, kelsier, Ganoes Paran, Shaved knuckle. I&#039;m wondering what it will be. OO yeah thank you al for letting vin defeat Jon Snow, I mean Perrin was not a power full Character but he has his taver&#039;n, his wolf dream and his hammer. Jon Snow is just a teenage basterd with averige fighting skill and an albino wolf come on.   So thank you al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great match, I really love both serie&#8217;s and i think both have some of the best endings i ever read. How magnificent was the crippled god and the outcome of the Hero of ages was more then perfect in my eyes. It&#8217;s a hard choice but if you compare both of them I think I have to go with Quick Ben. He is just to strong, I mean atium helps only a little and just don&#8217;t think there is a thing Vin can throw a Quick to give him more than a scratch. On the other hand, real strength doesn&#8217;t really matter. it&#8217;s just us voting but it will be a great fight and i&#8217;m curius. atium, oteral, warrens, bridgeburners, bonehunters, kalam, Sazed, Eland, kelsier, Ganoes Paran, Shaved knuckle. I&#8217;m wondering what it will be. OO yeah thank you al for letting vin defeat Jon Snow, I mean Perrin was not a power full Character but he has his taver&#8217;n, his wolf dream and his hammer. Jon Snow is just a teenage basterd with averige fighting skill and an albino wolf come on.   So thank you al</p>
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		<title>By: TrypB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrypB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick Ben is not the focus of the Malazan series, unlike a Rand or Richard (aka free market messiah). Where in each book they have to squeak out a new plot for something that sounds so much more awful than the last book, and lay yet another laurel, and another skill set at the feet of the titanic main character. The fact that Vin apparently ends the series as a god or godlike equivalent, is not surprising but the predictable result of the main character grind. Malazan series is dripping with extremely powerful characters all after their own goals, and even more insidious an unstoppable tide of tragic miss chance to really crank up the pathos. QB will have certainly seen worse than vin, and probably had to beat that threat under the clock. 

I&#039;m sure the Mistborn is a fine series, and I&quot;ll crack it as soon as I aggro a bookstore. But given a challenge between any Malazan character and halfway reasonable counterpart I&#039;d lay odds on the Erickson creation, the world is that much up to eleven. (Epic stock brokers, epic indentured servants, comic relief necromancers.....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick Ben is not the focus of the Malazan series, unlike a Rand or Richard (aka free market messiah). Where in each book they have to squeak out a new plot for something that sounds so much more awful than the last book, and lay yet another laurel, and another skill set at the feet of the titanic main character. The fact that Vin apparently ends the series as a god or godlike equivalent, is not surprising but the predictable result of the main character grind. Malazan series is dripping with extremely powerful characters all after their own goals, and even more insidious an unstoppable tide of tragic miss chance to really crank up the pathos. QB will have certainly seen worse than vin, and probably had to beat that threat under the clock. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the Mistborn is a fine series, and I&#8221;ll crack it as soon as I aggro a bookstore. But given a challenge between any Malazan character and halfway reasonable counterpart I&#8217;d lay odds on the Erickson creation, the world is that much up to eleven. (Epic stock brokers, epic indentured servants, comic relief necromancers&#8230;..)</p>
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		<title>By: Archon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 02:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tal

Hard to sing any praises about QB that haven&#039;t already been sung at this point... If people haven&#039;t read the books, it&#039;s nearly impossible to accurately explain QB&#039;s awsomeness... much like for people that haven&#039;t read about Vin trying to figure out exacly how powerful this meta-burning really makes her...</description>
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<p>Hard to sing any praises about QB that haven&#8217;t already been sung at this point&#8230; If people haven&#8217;t read the books, it&#8217;s nearly impossible to accurately explain QB&#8217;s awsomeness&#8230; much like for people that haven&#8217;t read about Vin trying to figure out exacly how powerful this meta-burning really makes her&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: btowl1818</title>
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		<dc:creator>btowl1818</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 23:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tal, we don&#039;t need to be crowing Quick Ben&#039;s praises...that would draw the wrong kinds of attention. Besides, &quot;Quick Ben &gt; awesome&quot; is a universal truth, understood by all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tal, we don&#8217;t need to be crowing Quick Ben&#8217;s praises&#8230;that would draw the wrong kinds of attention. Besides, &#8220;Quick Ben &gt; awesome&#8221; is a universal truth, understood by all.</p>
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		<title>By: Terez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 19:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Laura! Yours is the first submission. I&#039;m wondering if it would be tacky to change my mind about the deadline and move it up a couple of days before the match ends. I&#039;d hate for them to all come in once it&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Laura! Yours is the first submission. I&#8217;m wondering if it would be tacky to change my mind about the deadline and move it up a couple of days before the match ends. I&#8217;d hate for them to all come in once it&#8217;s over.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 19:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is how I think it will go 

http://lmg-student-life.blogspot.com/2011/04/vin-vs-quick-ben-how-i-think-it-would.html

saying that I don&#039;t know Quick Ben, so I&#039;ve had to go on what fans and other sources have said, please let me know what you think! 

And no it&#039;s not just Vin shooting a coin through his head before they even do anything!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how I think it will go </p>
<p><a href="http://lmg-student-life.blogspot.com/2011/04/vin-vs-quick-ben-how-i-think-it-would.html" rel="nofollow">http://lmg-student-life.blogspot.com/2011/04/vin-vs-quick-ben-how-i-think-it-would.html</a></p>
<p>saying that I don&#8217;t know Quick Ben, so I&#8217;ve had to go on what fans and other sources have said, please let me know what you think! </p>
<p>And no it&#8217;s not just Vin shooting a coin through his head before they even do anything!</p>
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		<title>By: Terez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 17:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon said early in the matches that he was taking atium out of her repertoire &#039;for now&#039;, but that if she had to face Zedd, then all bets were off. And of course, she used atium against Zedd. Anyway, I think he took atium out of her repertoire because he knows it makes her essentially undefeatable, but that&#039;s not really true when QB is attacking from a distance with something she has no way to counter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon said early in the matches that he was taking atium out of her repertoire &#8216;for now&#8217;, but that if she had to face Zedd, then all bets were off. And of course, she used atium against Zedd. Anyway, I think he took atium out of her repertoire because he knows it makes her essentially undefeatable, but that&#8217;s not really true when QB is attacking from a distance with something she has no way to counter.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that so long as Vin has access to Atium and/or the mists then she&#039;ll win. I mean seeing into the future is a huge advantage!!!

Oh and don&#039;t forget that she&#039;s defeated people with Atium before, when she doesn&#039;t have any if you remember Zane in the Well of Ascension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that so long as Vin has access to Atium and/or the mists then she&#8217;ll win. I mean seeing into the future is a huge advantage!!!</p>
<p>Oh and don&#8217;t forget that she&#8217;s defeated people with Atium before, when she doesn&#8217;t have any if you remember Zane in the Well of Ascension.</p>
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