Comments on: Cage Match 2012: Championship: Moiraine Damodred versus Kylar Stern

By: Appreauntis

Appreauntis — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:38:26 +0000

I am writing this after A Memory of Light came out.

Balefire is just another weave, still part of the One Power, therefore the Ka’Kari could eat it.

By: NAT4Ever

NAT4Ever — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:46:24 +0000

@Wot4Ever
Just because a character is from WoT doesn’t mean it “automatically” wins. It’s only because the WoT fanbase is so large. And besides, you’re giving all of the WoT fan base a bad name. I feel ashamed to admit I read the series, only because of the disturbances YOU have caused.
And “Balefire” doesn’t make all the difference, when Moiraine went against Rake, she had to find another way to beat him, as he resisted the balefire. The reason WoT won is because it is more popular.
And as for the “ka’kari vs balefire” thing, we have to remember that balefire is supposed to destroy all things (except for cuellindar), and the ka’kari does count as a “thing”. If I remember, it can only absorb so much stuff at once, and the excess is bled out. In this case, the excess balefire would not bleed out, but just destroy the ka’kari.
Don’t take this personally, I just felt it needed to be said.

By: WoT4Ever

WoT4Ever — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:54:26 +0000

Stop hating guys… anyone from WoT is going to beat pretty much anyone from any other series… they’re simply on a different level. Especially the people who can use Balefire.

By: The Nightfall

The Nightfall — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 23:29:45 +0000

Yeah, like most of Kylar’s fan I think he would won.
Probabilly Moiraine won just because she have a lot of fan, but c’mon.. let’s face the reality. No matter how powerfull a mage is. The ka’kari eat the magic and physical object whitout limits. And, just to clarify, a swordman, however expert he/she can be, will never make it agaist a killer trained to find and hit the weak points of the enemy.
For me, and many other, Kylar wins.
And I’m happy to see so many comments who supports our Night Angel.

By: Masked Man

Masked Man — Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:04:51 +0000

pathetic. having read both series, there’s literally nothing Moiraine Damodred could do against Stern. It’s like pitting a human being in a concrete room with a lion. It’s just not gonna fucking happen. The human can definitely have tons of experience in fighting, but it boils down to the fact all the human can do is piss of the lion, where as the lion only needs one bite to insure it’s victory. A mage can use all it wants, but it barely affects the killer. The killer is a mage AND SWORDSMAN. The mage can’t hurt the wetboy, only able to see an invisible demon which would’ve simply devoured any magic in the way than stab her. Balefire keeps getting brung up, yet wasn’t magic can’t hurt a magical item that’s made for devouring magic already established? All Kylar has to do is stab her, Retribution or Curoch will make tons of problems. She wouldn’t even be able to heal, because it’s Curoch. Even if somehow the Balefire spell kills Jorsin or someone all the way back than do you realize how quickly Stern is? Would be 5 seconds. Balefire, really fast running, gutted like a fish. Lots of people overrating Moiraine.

By: Volkai

Volkai — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:27:14 +0000

So, what happens when Balefire burns the black ka’kari from existence? Keep in mind that balefire’s effect travels backwards in time, meaning it affect you before it hits you.

What can Kylar do WITHOUT his Black Ka’kari? Is he still immortal without it?

By: TraceurPunk

TraceurPunk — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:27:07 +0000

Kylar, almost outright. *SPOILERS THROUGHOUT*
The Black Ka’kari is the Devourer, and the Sustainer. It devoures magic like nothing, and physical things only slightly less. Only Retribution wasn’t dulled by The Black. It would also use the magic is devoured to sustain Kylar’s life, even to the point of creating another limb, if Kylar ever lost one.
Kylar can go completely invisible, The Black devouring the light.
Kylar is a Wetboy, not a silly assassin. He’d learn all there is to know about his Deader, and precede to plan, back-up plan, and back-up the back-ups.
His sheer physical strength and stamina would probably outlast a poisoned person’s, depending on the poison. And besides, he can make a poison that will kill if it reacts with anything other than the antidote, which he wouldn’t give her. So even if she somehow managed to kill him, she’d still die. And He’d come back. Immortality. Sorry, lady, you probably woulda gotten yer butt handed to ya.

By: Greg

Greg — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:20:12 +0000

Kylar stern would win. Reason 1: is immortal. That doesn’t mean he can’t die but he can come back to life. Reason 2) his training. He would have found out every little detail about his ‘Deader’ or opponent. He would have known about the balefire weave and would take steps to counter it before he made his move. Reason 3) His kakari ‘The devourer’. It was made to absorb ANY and ALL magic. It was fuelled by the magic it absorbed so the more magic the stronger it would become. Reason 4(If we go by the fan made fiction above) Moiraine was poisoned. Her weave would fail due to the Kakari so she is done no matter if she fends off Kylar or not. If she some how beats Kylar and goes through his things he would have Falsely labeled them (so this exact situation wouldn’t happen) and made the poison violently react to anything but the antidote and vise versa. Reason 5) * MAJOR SPOILER* Kylars life. Kylar finds out from the ‘Wolf’ that every time he ‘dies’ and is ressurected, a loved one must die to balance out the lack of death. Kylar would take every step humanly possible after all the careless mistakes and times he’s ‘died’. At this point, if Moiraine could get past the poison and the Kakari, Kylar would flat out refuse to lose and would ether fight harder and win, or retreat and attack at a better time.

By: sim

sim — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:46:27 +0000

even if kylar died he would just come back to life in a few days. the kakari makes him more or less immortal

By: Akmea

Akmea — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:32:01 +0000

Seth Jen, we actually do know what Balefire does to Cuendilar. Nothing. Happened when the Black Ajah woman, Jeanine something, used it on Nynaeve in Tanchico. The cabinet, the wall, everything was destroyed by the Balefire terangreal, but the cuendilar in the cabinet just dropped to the floor. Nynaeve even notices and comments mentally that not even balefire can destroy cuendilar.

As for me, I give my support to Moiraine because Kylar wouldn’t see her as one of the coranti.